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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:43 PM 
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Alas, Rayearth seems quite dead at the moment. Here is what led to this:

It got pretty cold last night. I did not have the furnace on because I am an idiot. It did not get below 55 in the house. The iBook was on when I went to sleep. It was not on when I woke up. It turned it on to check the weather and it appeared to work fine. I closed it up, took it to work, got it home. It was not sleeping as it should have been. I turned it on, and it ran for about 5 minutes before simply shutting off as if the battery had died. It did not go to sleep. The power cord was in. It will not start now.

Things I did:

Took off battery, unplugged AC cord, let sit for several mintues.
Tried resetting the PMU per Apple's website.
Tried a different AC adapter.
Tried running with the battery disconnected.

Nothing is making it start. I'm going to try to get to the Apple Store tomorrow and see if anyone can give me advice. I don't know how the cold could cause this but it is the only factor out of the ordinary.

Does anyone have any thoughts?

G3 iBook 700MHz

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:58 PM 
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Ricky,

I doubt it got cold enough to affect your iBook. It could simply be a coincidence. Unfortunately, I don't have any other suggestions besides what you've already tried.

I'm assuming that you aren't hearing the startup chime. Is that correct?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:01 PM 
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Absolutely nothing happens.

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Then I really don't have any ideas. If the Apple Store tells you that it's some sort of expensive problem (logic board, for example), I'd call Mark Kippert first (357-6227) to see if he has any ideas.

Obviously, if you were independently wealthy, I'd suggest just buying a MacBook or MacBook Pro. I only say that because I know you were interested in my MacBook a couple of months ago. I'm betting that you can't really spend the money right now on a new Mac.


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I was just thinking about his business, so I will do that if something huge is broke.

There is also the problem of not having backed up in a while.

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The guy at the Genius Bar came to the same conclusions I had. We both thought it was the power converter, but that didn't pan out. It has to be the logic board. I left it there to let Apple fix it. My mother offered to buy the computer later for the amount I pay to fix it. It was $290 and I get it back in a week or so. Perhaps it is good timing that we just got overtime back at work. So... I'll work to get that new MacBook, now.

To add insult to injury, the hard drive on my Beige G3 crashed. I managed to get it to boot in OS 9 from "Mars", the 2G external drive I got for 50 cents. Unfortunately I can't do any intensive disk checking with OS 9. Blah. Jaguar install disk's Disk Utility says...

Partition 1, "Mercury" (OS X boot volume) reports "Invalid Node Structure"

Partition 2, "Venus" (OS 9 boot volume) reports "Keys out of order"

From what I cal tell these are pretty serious problems. Part of the reason I partitioned was so if one part crashed the other part could fix it. That didn't work as planned. If only I could run Disk Warrior. The disk I have does not work on that computer.

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The disk errors on the Beige G3 sound serious. They do sound like errors that you'd need Disk Warrior to fix.

Could you run Disk Warrior from an external drive?


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You know I thought of that after what I am doing now. Disk Warrior DOES have an OS 9 version on here, but the CD drive is elderly and often screws up. It worked the second time, and DW has been repairing the OS X boot volume for the past several hours. It's very slow. I am not interested too much if it will run OS X at the moment, I just want the drives stablized so I can backup everything and probably wipe out everything. It's horrible timing that I do not have my iBook to cooridnate the file removal, but I have borrowed my dad's PowerBook to facilitate the file evacuation. It's just time consuming.

Technology is great when it works!

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Well, good luck!


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The iBook is back! The hard drive contents were intact, so I have gone through and backed up things I deem "important" until I can make a REAL backup later.

They replaced the logic board, and the DC input thing.

In other news, the desktop is completely useless.

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Ricky,

I assume you've tried to re-install OS 9 or OS X on the Beige G3. If that doesn't work, then it really might be dead.


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The hard drive is about dead and I'm not inspired enough to deal with getting a new one. The thing will run OS 9 but OS X is hosed and I don't care too much for now. I may look into upgrading it all later some time but for now it can go back to sleep and take up space. I would just need to get all files off and do a "real" format of the drive, but, as I said, I'm not inspired to get that done right now.

If I get time this weekend I might check out the original 6G Quantum drive it came with. I knew there was good reason for keeping it.

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I certainly wouldn't spend money upgrading that G3 Beige Mac. I'd probably save your pennies towards upgrading the iBook to a MacBook.


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